Season 2, Episode 6: 2022 CFB Season In Review, and Grading Riley's Skittle Shidders With The Outlaw of College Football

[00:00:00] The home of the common Joe in the common Sally in the know even more so than all those Media talking head going back to USC for a second mean you talked about yourself

[00:00:14] I had that even their administration is a burning dump being man. I mean there after worrying about some of the pedia stuff Man, they banned the word field I'm being used because they said it had negative connotations to racism and and Bad the word field

[00:00:35] Yeah, the word field like football field field of dreams the movie that kind of thing And I guess they're gonna and they wanted to place it with some word called Practimists or something. I can't remember how it was said but I guess we call the movie

[00:00:50] Practimist dreams or something or you know man, this is can't call football field I guess we just call a football meadow or something And then on the big screen up there you can have that

[00:01:04] Lead up to a little house in the prairie when a little girl's running down the meadow and she falls down or some shit

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[00:03:01] Mr. Jesse Paul Clark also known as To the show welcome to the show outlaw. How's it going? Finally finally the Hof and OCS are Edit together man, we have been

[00:03:23] You know, it's weird that we hadn't found a way to get there before but I was it was one of the things that I said Early to start the season to start the year I'm gonna make sure that we get something going with the outlaw of college football

[00:03:37] We have so much in common on what we think It's especially when it comes to old linky boy And and and as you call them the skittles shitters at USC Got my my waffle house cooked today coffee Come in here scatting Smothersome people Throw them on the grill

[00:04:03] Here we go. Here we go. So the first thing I kind of wanted to bring up now, obviously We just got done watching The utter dismantling of TCU it did not look good the other day by the Georgia Bulldogs

[00:04:19] And it kind of brought back and I think we've both kind of spoken about this since then but that just that air raid Lincoln Riley offense that obviously derived from leech and and some of these other guys just doesn't really cut it

[00:04:34] When you get down to the playoff and going up against these sec juggernauts that play defense first um You know and it just I think it was more of a More proof of that now nobody from USC wants to hear that but that's why we're here anyway

[00:04:50] Is because it doesn't matter what they want. We're just gonna hear we're gonna tell the truth Well They score points in games that I mean they matter, but they're not championship type games now

[00:05:05] You can probably get away with it win a conference title playing that kind of stuff But once you get on the national stage, man, it's been proven time and time again that it just ain't gonna happen Now Lincoln Riley for all his

[00:05:18] crap that I don't like he has actually Scored a few points in these games, but the problem is they can't stop nobody. I mean As you know because you're an oklahoma fan LSU beat them 63 to 28 they got their 28 points, but they give up 63 alabama beat them 45 34

[00:05:37] And even back with georgia the game they were doing 28 nothing before Freakin first quarter was over with you know what I mean that was that wasn't even it that game was never close Yeah, it's they've been just took his foot off the gas

[00:05:49] Right, whereas, you know teams like lsu and georgia sometimes they don't take their foot off the gas but Even back when that you went to oklahoma play georgia y'all had that game won That should have been the year that y'all played alabama for the national championship

[00:06:02] If there was gonna be if there was gonna be a year that they were gonna win it It would have been that year because they did have the big boys along the defensive line Exactly they could have beat alabama and uh

[00:06:16] He's up 31 14 and georgia gets that little field go right before halftime because that stupid kick that he done Squib kick and um, I was at the rose ball that way Mr. What what it gave me ended up what 52 to 51 or something 53 52 or something like that

[00:06:30] Well, yeah, well it went to overtime and they they screwed up the They had that fumble and then I mean right away And the thing was is that baker had been sick all week And so for whatever reason he takes his foot off of the gas

[00:06:45] And once you once you let somebody change the momentum then it's over And as well as baker played. I mean he was that was he was definitely the best player in college football that year

[00:06:57] In my mind and they had a nice day. I mean they were great on offense There was no reason why they should have lost and even defensively as I said Jake from and those guys hadn't done anything

[00:07:07] Up until that point and you let you left that little opening Sony michelle goes right through it and the next thing you know, you're in a shootout and As we know look at all these times

[00:07:17] What was that the fifth or sixth time that they've had a 14 point lead a link and rally teams had a 14 point or more lead And lost in a postseason game or in something whether it be a conference title or in the playoff or whatever

[00:07:32] He's just not good with even with leads Yeah, I saw I saw stat where it said Lincoln rallies blew like six or seven 14 or more point leads In the last two or three years, which is more than any other fbc or fbs coach out there

[00:07:47] Right and with uh Garrett Riley He's supposed to be this next coming that's supposed to be even better than Lincoln And then he couldn't even put up but seven points In the national championship game And then his defense one day one day defense gives up 65 points

[00:08:03] Man looked like um, that wasn't even I wasn't even asked with man That was like a an addressing of a Of an fcs opponent like a homecoming opponent from the fcs or something

[00:08:14] Right and I saw on there where you were talking about how kent state actually played them closer You know and and I mean obviously different kind of different kind of game and different kind of you know

[00:08:23] Eyes on it or whatever but no matter what if you can't find a way to get up for this team for this game And put on some kind of show I mean

[00:08:32] In look, I'm not a big fan of the big 10 right now. I think that it's aside from michigan and ohio state It's pretty much trash um, but The one thing that you could understand I mean even with ohio state being as bad as they were against michigan

[00:08:49] They found a way to to come in and put in a game plan that That almost did win against georgia, you know now and georgia didn't have their best game in that one

[00:08:59] But at least I mean and I've always said that I always call ryan day lincoln light But because I think they're about the same dude. I really do but That being said he came up with a game plan that gave him an opportunity to win

[00:09:13] How are you if your sonny dykes and lincoln's little brother garret? How do you not figure that out? You know It just makes georgia's probably going to get their 65 points anyway But you could at least made it look respectable and maybe put up 28 35 points

[00:09:30] Which they couldn't do I think that the lights were just way too bright for tcu. I think that that's clear um myself and I There was a lot of questionable Playing calling that michigan game team not saying that cost michigan the game But

[00:09:45] There was a lot of stuff that broke tcu's way. It was a perfect storm for them all year long too all year long Kansas state should have been him twice They should have got them. Okay, lights should have got them too. They had them up by 17

[00:10:01] And early in the second quarter they had them up. They were up 17 You see teams like at all times that like you say they're not used to being there and They barely squeak by and then when the cinderella slipper falls off it falls off big time Yeah, yeah

[00:10:15] And to me and I guess that was the question I have for you is you know being a big 12 guy and I I know how I feel about about the conference, you know, I grew up watching this conference being in oklahoma fan my whole life

[00:10:26] I'm glad to see ou And even texas going to the sec and getting Into this to the league to where you know, you have to build your team a certain way to win it

[00:10:36] And oklahoma fans are not going to be okay with middle of the road. So that you know, they're gonna definitely That's why venables is there that being said Once these guys are gone If tcu is your flag bearer or even oklahoma state

[00:10:52] What does that mean for the conference? Future, you know To me i'm worried about it. I I feel like this is definitely going to a big two type of deal and You're gonna see the rest of them kind of become

[00:11:06] The minor leagues the big 12 that are what do y'all call them the hateful eight or something The eighth job left behind that's you know pissed off They they've been pumping her chest out this year because oklahoma and texas have sort of slid a little bit

[00:11:22] And pounding their chest and saying see we don't need them. We're in two big ball games without But you see what y'all done when y'all got on that big stage The two flag bears from the sec georgian alabama

[00:11:34] Beat the two flag bears for the big 12 by a popular combined score 110 to 27 110 to 27 man Kansas states must be the big 12 champs now they they beat tcu and should have beat them twice And i'm not gonna sit here and debate on who should have been in

[00:11:57] Alabama screwed themselves But if they lost by gran tola two points to the and their two games if tcu loses a game You're supposed to drop some when you lose. That's why it's always been Not only did they not drop they stayed in the same spot

[00:12:12] So you're not going to put alabama in at least Put tcu number four And that way you get that that shit game out of the way in the first round I would love to have seen michigan and ohio state play again to go to the championship game

[00:12:27] You mean you tell me that ohio state and michigan wouldn't have been a An extravaganza for ratons. That's one of the most watched robberies of all time And i think ohio state would have beat them in a rematch

[00:12:39] And then you would have had that classic in the national championship game Absolutely Yeah, because that first the first the semifinal round of it was fun to watch, you know, you had two

[00:12:50] Competitive games again, I agree with you about michigan. I think that I think the hardball spit the bit on that I think that he choked it away to be honest with you and i've always i've always been a fan of his as far as how he coached

[00:13:02] But he freaking choked it away. You're down there on the goal line twice and you don't get in You don't get no points out of it even And then they're bitching about non targeting calls and bullshit. No, no, no you had your chances

[00:13:16] You should have just won a damn game their targeting call Was at the end of the game and it would have moved them to the 50 r line You mean tell me that you think you're gonna get a hell marry at that point

[00:13:28] It was they were lucky to get that they were the lucky to fit that ball into where they did at that point You know the fuck out here. It was joking He's living off those two wins over ohio state right now Because you know, honestly the big 10

[00:13:42] Outside of ohio state all they want to do is win the big 10 Back in the day. That's all they cared about was going to rosebow They had a little rosebow tie-in with the pack 12 where nobody else can play against them

[00:13:53] It took the little ball and went home back in 1946 And they made everybody else have to tie in with bowls for a long time Now we finally got away from all that crap and now we're gonna get a real playoff

[00:14:03] I wasn't really sold on the 12 team playoff until this year I agree A lot of other teams got screwed too tennessee beat alabama So even with the backup quarterback, they were talking about because of the backup quarterback that they shouldn't

[00:14:19] They almost didn't give them the row the orange bull And i'm like dude that backup is as good as freaking their first guy, you know And if you're not gonna put alabama in because you want to punish alabama because they get in every year

[00:14:32] You've got bad luck fatigue. Well then put tennessee in because tennessee's better than tc Sure, they were they were and as much as i mean look with the one loss I didn't have a problem necessarily with putting them in there Except for the fact that you just knew

[00:14:48] That they weren't i mean had it not been for usc blowing it against against utah twice Twice yeah, but i mean in the second one and for sure that kept that was the only thing that allowed tcu to get in

[00:15:01] And do not tell me that you that usc would have done anything more They couldn't even be too late So don't tell me that they would have done anything more Then what then what tcu did that just goes to show you that

[00:15:14] Because i didn't think ohio state deserved to go in either they didn't play anybody all year all year when they did they lost And then when they had 12 team playoff I think that had there been a 12 team playoff

[00:15:27] It guaranteed it's as it's two sec teams playing for the title No doubt and i'm not saying it's because i'm an alabama fan But I truly believe that the only teams that could have beat georgia were alabama and maybe ohio state

[00:15:40] That's it. Tennessee, maybe i think well tennessee obviously they didn't look great against them But they it was at georgia too You know and i don't normally harp on officiating But the officiating has been a horrible across the board this year in every single

[00:15:55] Conference to me and that tennessee game That's the first time i ever complained about officiating publicly. That was probably one of the worst officiating games ever Yeah, well they had what 10 10 10 penalties to to not like plus 10 on penalties 17 and and tennessee had like four

[00:16:16] Right. Yeah, so it was well. Yeah, and and that was still I mean hell every time you thought tennessee was pulling away Here comes bam. I think that that was brash young's best game as as a as a freaking quarterback for alabama

[00:16:32] I think that that was his best game period. He played Just like with kelo Williams if usc doesn't have kelo Williams. They lose about four games five games this year About a badman doesn't have brash young this year. We probably lose about three or four games

[00:16:45] We probably lose at texas game for sure Definitely and probably the a and m well, they he didn't play in the a and m game But of course, you know That was My love oh, oh little brothers these little brothers are something aren't they?

[00:17:00] Uh, so yeah, and I agree with you as far as and the other thing that sc got away with and we can kind of segue into that a little bit To me. Here's the deal

[00:17:10] You've heard this from from usc fans all year long is oh oklahoma all you fans are just pissed off about leaking this and that and blah blah blah blah blah well First off he was shady as hell the way that he left in the middle of the night

[00:17:23] Oh, yeah, I'm not going to take the lsu job after they lose bedlam and by the way I felt like I felt like this and will continue to say that game was thrown

[00:17:32] He ran the same fucking play seven to eight times in a row and still almost couldn't keep kelo Williams from winning it I mean they were this close Anyway, that game was thrown

[00:17:44] Then they ride home together not on the bus. They ride home together in a in a vehicle just a regular truck And so they could talk about what's gonna happen moving forward

[00:17:55] kelo Williams was not on the bus with his teammates. He was in the suburban with with Lincoln. That's That's the whole deal. Oh, oh I didn't know that man. You should know that yeah man that happened. That's there. That's Well known That's what happened. So they're riding home

[00:18:13] They're riding home and they set up the whole thing of you know, what you can wait to do the portal deal until after the ball game And all that kind of stuff and then he and he played it out

[00:18:23] Well, I'll give kelo Williams that he played it out very well smart about the way he did it And I don't even necessarily blame him for leaving. I get it If you think that Lincoln's gonna be good for your career, obviously he wins the heisman trophy this year

[00:18:37] That was smart on his part But the way it was just shady and then Lincoln doesn't even hang around to tell his team that he's leaving Right. Yeah, he makes sure that the guys he wanted to come with him knew about it

[00:18:50] The guys that he wanted to come with him knew that he was leaving nobody else He left I thought bob stupes made him go address the team or something. I swear I heard I wasn't I've heard that as well, but I

[00:19:03] Everything that I've heard really was that bob stupes went to address the team and they were freaked the hell out because he hadn't spoken to him A lot of people say well, you know, that's just hearsay. You don't know for sure that he was you know

[00:19:18] Working for usc while he was employed by oklahoma But we do know that because one of his staffers was caught recruiting for usc while he was still employed For oklahoma. He was caught doing it the nc double a

[00:19:32] Caught him doing that. Yeah, so the dude was already recruiting for usc before he left and man. That's just Beyond shady, man Yeah, and listen What about The pit coach? I mean he was like look they were talking to They were talking to to the receiver

[00:19:51] Oh man, what's that guy's name that won the bullet in the car phone jordan adison They were talking to his ass before they ever played their ballgame Right there's nothing wrong with going after players in the transfer portal. That's okay. He wasn't in the portal yet

[00:20:04] But you are not allowed to lure them to the port Which is what deion sanders was doing in december He was talking about his players coming to the portal before the portal door was open

[00:20:14] Which is an instant double a violation and people won't take up the deion because everybody's got this man crush On on con time deion sanders. I'm telling you man. He's a con to me No, I'm with you man and I understand what you're saying and the difference

[00:20:28] I guess the only difference in that is it's a fcs program versus an fbs program But it still doesn't matter. It's still against the rules And that's the thing is with the all of this in il and transfer portal stuff

[00:20:40] There are no real rules the the nc double a has no more teeth They have it in a long time You know when you've got jimbo can sit down there and stand on a table

[00:20:50] And tell you that he didn't spend 30 million when we know he did and we know that he used it as an enticement too Here's you what the the fact that they made that rule is a joke to me

[00:21:02] If you didn't make that rule if you said okay use it as an enticement It's pay for play. You might as well just admit it then you could say all right So now we can put a cap on it now

[00:21:14] We can say you know we can we can at least know what the numbers are So that there is some level of control because right now there is none. There is none these guys could up and leave

[00:21:25] JT daniels is this going to be his 14 and four years at rice I was gonna tell you man. I heard this morning on tide 100.9. So radio station here in tusk loose is dedicated to sports

[00:21:38] They were saying that the nc double a passed new rule day on the portal That now an underclassman if he transfers One time he can't transfer again unless he has Extinguished circumstances so there's already supposed to be the rule. We're starting to try to bottle that up now

[00:21:56] Uh where they can transfer again, but it's got to be something really really bad or have any extinction circumstances That's what it should be man. You can't it's one thing if the coach leaves and all that

[00:22:06] I ain't got a problem with that if your coach leaves and you should be able to transfer too That and that was already like that these players want to be paid like NFL players

[00:22:13] But they don't want to go about NFL rules NFL teams don't allow their players to go from team to team to team to team A contract contract you got a contract you got a sign

[00:22:22] But these players they want all the good and the bad they don't want to sign any contracts like men They want to act like they're kids when it's convenient Well, and that's what i'm saying is the whole nil deal if they did it the right way

[00:22:33] It would be just let the They they want to keep these schools separated from it for whatever reason So that they so that they still don't have any kind of control on it

[00:22:43] And I feel like that that's so these shady ones that have more money than others can continue to have an advantage That's built in or whatever anybody that thinks that this was about equity and college football is out of their damn mind

[00:22:55] Because it isn't it has nothing to do with that All you have now is a farm system within a farm system, you know the college football is a farm system for the NFL But now you have teams like wake forest and and um, I don't know

[00:23:09] Any of them ACC bars Boston college Any of these teams that are mid-card teams If they're if they have a good player like the george tech running back for example went to alabama If you got a good running back and you're like a mid-card team then

[00:23:25] They can come in and take your good player away from at that point Yeah, and and there's no just like the whole thing with jordan adison nobody I mean Narduzzi was screaming from from every every time he got in front of a microphone

[00:23:41] That that linkin was doing it cheating from from day one from the day he left to la He was on the phone with jordan adison addan adison had not entered the portal He hadn't even talked about it

[00:23:53] And all of a sudden he's in the portal and he's got these million dollar, you know Same thing with keleb williams. It was a

[00:24:00] And I know for sure that oklahoma was screaming to the nc double a to do something about it because they were hemorrhaging all these players You know and so rightfully so and yet, you know, everybody's wants to throw that

[00:24:13] They want to throw that out there that that's oh he left an 11 and 2 program there. No he didn't Yeah, after he got in about 40 players now some of the players he didn't get but he was Indirectly responsible for about 40 players leaving

[00:24:27] if you ever saw garrick's garner went to south carolina with with with uh With uh, uh, spencer spencer rattler Right, when have you ever seen a first year coach that's never had to coach before Have to come in and deal with that kind of shit, man

[00:24:43] Nobody's all just a mess to clean up just a big mess to clean up and yeah You gotta talk to in class And now you gotta top five class

[00:24:52] And linkin roll is you know been open his mouth all year people like why you keep messing with linkin roll easy Living rent free of your mind like no actually uh, oklahoma must be living rent free in his because he keeps opening his mouth man

[00:25:04] I've hit shut up. I wouldn't give you know He said and I quote I couldn't recruit to oklahoma Well, you're right. You couldn't recruit to oklahoma. Guess what rent venous can You got top five class. That's the highest rated class since they started these rankings for oklahoma

[00:25:21] But you can't recruit to oklahoma, right? No and they apparently he can't recruit to usc either Apparently not he couldn't get in the top 10 with all those extravagant Um Stuff that they had is supposed to make them such a much better program than oklahoma

[00:25:36] You know what we'll get lost in on california. They own california Yeah, except except he doesn't even get the best players from california Like ui yunga little a matel the best edge rusher in the nation according to the rankings He goes to freaking orgin

[00:25:53] Why alabama just alabama just coming in took another quarterback Five stars yeah Dude, yeah, well in malachi, you know, I thought malachi was going to end up going to a and m

[00:26:06] Because they were dumping a boatload of cash in his pocket and he's not going to get to play right off the bat Obviously at sc because of kyle williams So they must have backed up the brink's truck to him

[00:26:17] You know and probably the heisman trophy probably helped with with malachi But I don't think that they have the best quarter. I was at that Being at the all american bowl in san antonio this past weekend The best quarterback that i've seen Dante more was

[00:26:33] Unbelievable and he's going to ucla Yeah backyard man Backyard is a That back to the big 12 points that you were making man Like I said, they they got this false bravado in this mirage now because can the state tcu major up there But it was on because

[00:26:51] Oklahoma and texas are sorted transition these two programs are not gonna stay down forever They got too big of a rich fan base and following to stay down and when they do leave I think that eventually it may not happen in the next four or five years

[00:27:04] But eventually I think the big 12 is going to slip into mediocrity as maybe a non-power five conference like the mountain west or something Unless You're saving grace might be byu byu has won a national championship back in the 80s

[00:27:18] They are probably the last non-power five team to win a national championship I remember two years ago. They beat five schools from the pack 12 in the same season And yeah, they were the pack 12 champs

[00:27:31] Exactly byu has got a large following and fan base since they do pack 12 really missed When they didn't invite byu now they're going to go back and that's all about that's all about religion and bs crap you know that all goes back to

[00:27:46] politics more or less which is the whole reason that when And I laughed about this one clay. I've coughed kind of acted like he didn't care anything about the big 12's overtures to To hey, let's merge To save ourselves And he blew them off the way he did

[00:28:03] And then so your mark turned around and was like, all right fine. We'll just poach. We'll poach the ones we want them That's right That's their one The best of the non-power fives what they did and they expanded their their

[00:28:17] Markets as well doing that so they actually ended up being a blessing Everybody thought the big 12 was gonna be the one that died because the pack 12 and the acc from this loose knit Alliance with the big 10 with kevin warren's line ass and liar

[00:28:32] All kevin warren did was lure the pack 12 in so that they didn't do something So he could get their two big money making markets and ucla and usc And he's probably going to eventually take organ in washington, too

[00:28:45] Maybe yeah, he's trying to act like yeah the fact that they believed him when he said, you know what we aren't gonna do that Yeah, that makes zero sense first off. He lied to your ass a year ago a year ago. We lied to you

[00:28:58] That's exactly going to believe him now. You're gonna believe him now When you know usc and ucla are gonna be like look, we don't want to travel every weekend to the fucking east coast Or to the midwest

[00:29:09] This is the same guy they need to add some teams on the pack on the pacific coast In order for their travel to not be out of hand and for their fans to be able to go and watch them

[00:29:20] Well, they say uc don't want organ in washington because they feel like they got some kind of damage on them by not They've not been in big 10 well Some kind of recruiting advantage or something. I think that they would rather see stanford and cow

[00:29:36] Because they don't you know, they're in the uc system. So I think that has a lot to do with that but I can't imagine that you wouldn't want any of your any of your rivals from the pack 12 to go with you so that you just for traveling's sake

[00:29:52] You know, it just doesn't make sense man. It doesn't make any sense to me But again, I feel like you're gonna see changes that nobody's expected and if they say they're not gonna do something

[00:30:02] You should assume they are that's how I feel about it if they say they're not you should assume they're gonna do it because they're not trying to Kevin Warren's the same guy that tried to shut down college football in 2020 man

[00:30:16] So why you don't believe anything he says man anything he shut down He made where we couldn't play non-conference games in like in august And we had to adhere to that because we can't make them play us

[00:30:27] you know, we didn't get to play us see that year because that crap and So we get on into the season and the sec and the big 12 say, you know what? We're gonna play we're gonna play conference games only and uh

[00:30:42] The big tens of not way through the year the big thing We're not doing it. Then when they saw the big 12 in the sec getting all the accolades and all the recruits that were

[00:30:52] You know flocking to those two conferences. They like wait, you better get this thing started back up He's a he's a fake man. He's a fraud Hate it. Yeah, and yeah, and and literally

[00:31:05] Right now. What are they? They're at 16 teams, aren't they did they make it that put them at 16 when they added those two They guaranteed the second Notre Dame says that they want that that they're in they will pull them now

[00:31:17] Even though all those years that they didn't want to do that because of michigan or whatever Believe me they want Notre Dame But so does the big 12 and everybody and I even think the sec would would welcome Notre Dame in just because of the money but

[00:31:32] That being said The second Notre Dame comes in they're gonna want stanford. They're gonna want they're gonna want Maybe not cow, but they're definitely they're gonna want stanford You can see that the u dub and and or again They're gonna be part of it

[00:31:46] It's gonna have to be and stanford won't go anywhere without cow So believe me the pack 12 is they are on their deathbed On their deathbed and it's because of kevin warren and the big 10

[00:31:58] And and yet all you had to do was go ahead and do the merger do the merger That's right, and they believe kevin won because they had a little Nostalgic rosebow tie in for 40 or 50 years that they let get in the way

[00:32:13] Of doing what was right for their con and the rosebowl almost screwed up the freaking the 12 team deal They almost screwed themselves out of it. They were gonna go into the 12 team playoff either way And the rosebowl went down to the wire on it

[00:32:26] Yeah, the fighting has been screwing it for decades, man That tie in started in 1946 Screwed up college football for 40 or 50 years because at that point every other conference had to get a tie And you had the sec with the sugar bowl the big eight at the time

[00:32:40] But the orange bowl ended up being a big 12 eventually but It's a bunch of crap, man It's something man And the rosebowl man they and then when you know we had the bcs. They tried to screw that up too

[00:32:54] They they drugged their feet on that and they were dragging their feet this time and they told them. Hey look, that's fine We don't need you anymore. If you don't want to come we just do without you

[00:33:03] In fact, so far stadiums way nicer than the rosebowl. So why do we need you? You know we can we'll bring them out there. We'll bring them out there anyway But it won't be the rosebowl won't get nothing out of it

[00:33:14] You know, what do they care? It was a bad deal that they were I was surprised. I'm like, how would you just shoot yourself in the foot? Just shoot yourself right in the foot when nobody cares

[00:33:26] You know, they're literally they're going whether you like it or not. The 12 team playoff is coming And I've never been I'm kind of on the side of it that I didn't necessarily want to see the 12 team playoff

[00:33:39] Until the last few years when you've seen some teams get left out that might have won it and stuff like that and like this year I don't know. I guess I would have probably liked to see us

[00:33:49] He going just so they could get the shit kicked out of them again And and if it had been them going up against Georgia, they get skull drug the same way there was a I went down at first with the 12 teams

[00:34:02] But I was down with eight. I wanted to see eight because I thought eight was a good number but Um, I'll take 12 as long as they don't try to push it to 16 man

[00:34:10] Because once you get to that point man, you got way too many teams in and you got teams with three and four Offsets in don't deserve to be in my opinion I agree and I think that that's what's gonna and then what you're gonna end up

[00:34:20] But it probably will end up going to 16 and I'll tell you why Because the best three or four teams in the country are gonna be in the sec And they're gonna stick all three or four of them in this 12 team playoff

[00:34:31] And it's gonna piss people off just like it always has Anyway, but you're gonna do that and they're gonna say oh, this is just a sec tournament You need to bump it up. Well, guess what?

[00:34:41] You can go to 16 and then now the top five are probably gonna get to go because that's just gonna be how it is They're the best teams in the country. What I want to see with this 12 team playoff I want to stop seeing cream puff you get played

[00:34:54] Middle of the damn season by the sec and the big 10. I don't want to see it no more. I don't want to see All right You won't have no reason to do it then because you won't need to pad your record as much

[00:35:04] You can afford to take two losses at that point Yeah, that's why a lot of them do it because they don't want to take two losses so Yeah, and that should open up the regular season where people say like guys like josh pater

[00:35:17] Like like to tell you that you're losing the importance of the regular season. I don't agree I think that if you say okay, hey, you can't play fcs opponents usc ucla don't do it If you can't play them anymore

[00:35:33] And and that count towards your you know getting into the playoff or whatever if they do that which they very well should Then You can you're gonna start seeing some of these in their conference. Yeah, I want to see more games like

[00:35:47] Georgia, Oregon was ugly that that wasn't and that was a bad setup from the get go once mario christobal left Oregon that put them in a bad position They lost them said all the time big 10 them talk about how the sec plays Fcs schools all time

[00:36:03] But they do it too the big 10 sort of gets around that by playing the mac the mac is division one or FBS, but we all know that the mac really ain't Hey, listen the big 10 west is like the freaking fcs for christ It was a shit show

[00:36:21] That's how they'll get around at that point. They'll start playing the lower tier um division one conferences like sunbelt The aac mountain west I think that the only way the pack 12 lives is to to rebrand the mountain west all of them

[00:36:39] You know, they're gonna rebrand the mountain west is the pack 12. What's gonna happen? It's like you said, um Big 10 is going to come in and probably take two to four teams In the big 12 is going to cherry pick the rest

[00:36:51] And then there's just going to be organ state and probably washington state left and organ state washington state They're gonna have to go to mountain west

[00:36:58] Yeah, that's how it's gonna have to go because they they they're the ones that don't have an option an option nobody wants them You know and even if you're even if you're looking at the big 12 Could you probably bolster the conference a little bit by ad num? Yeah

[00:37:12] But it's way away that corner of the of the country is a long ways from texas You know, which is where the you know The the majority of it is I see colorado probably going back to the big 12 at some point

[00:37:25] um, obviously the arizona schools and because of a lot of that having to do a basketball But I I just say that I feel like We're gonna see things that it's it's gonna come it's gonna turn it that top 50 teams that they want in this in this playoff

[00:37:42] scenario Colorado, Utah, Arizona, Arizona state need to join the big 12 They should they should but they a lot of them they It's so much of this Thumb your nose at it because you've got religious schools in the big 12

[00:37:59] You know, you got a bunch of baptists down in texas. You know, so they don't like that shit in california And I'm like, what does it have to do with football?

[00:38:07] It doesn't but that's the way they are and then they like to act like that their their schools are so much more Well, if it bothers me so much the one is five pack 12 school schedule byu in one year

[00:38:19] They had to they had to they didn't have it at that point and it Why do they I mean byu's in the mountain west or wherever they're independent And yet the pack 12 schedule them. So if they got a problem with byu, then don't schedule them at all

[00:38:37] They could have pulled byu into the mix with utah and didn't do it And that was the think about it when you look at the sec They've been strategic when they've pulled these guys in they weren't going to pull texas without oklahoma. They know better

[00:38:51] They weren't going to do it They allowed a and m to do it because of that was a There's money there and a and m wanted away from texas. That was that new brother syndrome back when we added a and m in missouri um They wanted

[00:39:07] Texas and oklahoma then And oklahoma whatever reason told them well, we don't want to go anywhere without oklahoma state But that's what I heard anyway But things have changed a lot since then oklahoma has come come to their senses on that

[00:39:23] And a lot of that had to do with the fact that of the last regime of you know, the conference commissioner there bob bousby Never took up for his flagship I mean texas in oklahoma make up for 50 percent of the revenue that happens within the big 12 50 percent

[00:39:41] and so But yeah, and they don't like that big noon time. They don't like that noon kickoff They wanted to play more of these later in the afternoon and into the prime time games Because they knew that that was good for their brands

[00:39:55] And yet he would never fight fox over it He would never you know, he wouldn't have to fight espn was smart enough to say hey We're gonna play them at night time, you know aside from the red river game

[00:40:06] Which they've even talked about that they don't care they'll play the red river game at night They don't they don't mind doing that. They don't need to be played anywhere before 2 3

[00:40:15] I don't like 11 o'clock games man. I mean you can't you can't go out and watch parties. You can't tailgate Right, it screws up everything So yeah, and the same night Hey man, and even that even at oklahoma games At the palace

[00:40:31] A lot of those the the the fans won't they hate the day games because you've got that one side of the stating That gets sun beaten and they don't like it and so you you have and that's where the student section is at the students will leave

[00:40:45] They'll go underneath the thing and it's not even a really good. It's well and oklahoma fans haven't done well with that A lot of times but in the end it all boils down to you've got to do better and

[00:40:57] Bowsby didn't he never stood up to the to to fox on their scheduling and any of that other kind of stuff And and oklahoma and texas got sick of it They kept warning him kept warning him and then finally when that opening

[00:41:11] When there was that slight opening and texas said let's go oklahoma was like, let's do it You know, I think it's an interesting stat that might make oklahoma and texas fans feel a little bit better By joining the sec

[00:41:24] These two teams are going to have something that none of the other teams in the sec have over alabama And that's a winning record You know alabama had never beaten texas till 2009. They were holding seven against

[00:41:37] Alabama was one of the last two, but they're still two in seven against texas and we have a losing record against oklahoma as well So They can beat alabama I mean they can't in this year texas proves you they can beat alabama

[00:41:51] Yeah, I think that when they get rid of sark, they'll be able to beat alabama Almost did this year It's weird to me like and the thing about texas is that

[00:42:03] It's not a recruiting problem and it doesn't matter which coach it is they get the guys that they want They just haven't to me sark is an assistant man. That's that's what it is

[00:42:12] I think 500 as a head coach. I think two the the um, I may be way off based on this. This is just me Throwing this out in wind, but just from what I've heard The texas boosters need to Back off a little bit

[00:42:27] You're not off based on the program one itself. I mean that's what sabin had to do when he came in He had a bunch of boosters That need to be set down and told hey Things are about to change

[00:42:37] You know y'all can have you those sweets and your nice little air conditioned boxes But you're not going to be telling me how to run this program Yeah If you want to win you're gonna back off

[00:42:46] You're gonna back off and allow him to do his job and that was the one thing It's it's rare that anybody comes in with that kind of power That sabin had because he didn't have to leave the dolphins. He'd only been there a couple years

[00:42:57] You know what I mean And his boss narrative out there about saving like he was an atrocious coach But he actually went nine and seven one year with the dolphins

[00:43:04] They weren't they weren't bad. They were finally gonna and that was believe me bellichick was happy for him to be leaving You know, he was You know Out on because he was scared in a field sabin left

[00:43:16] The beginning of that right up relationship siren was when Wayne hyzinga told sabin that you know He had control of a player personnel and sabin wanted drew breeze and they screwed him out of drew breeze with some bogus medical report

[00:43:29] And then Wayne hyzinga went out and got don't take cold pepper. That was the beginning of the end for miami And don't a don't his knee was so blown up by then I mean, he might have been a better quarterback at one point, but his knee was destroyed

[00:43:43] I mean, it was clear once he got to miami that he had nothing left He had nothing left Yeah, the dream breeze did it in your arms. He wants superbowl

[00:43:51] Oh, man. Yeah, that was a bad that was a bad move on their part and that was the first day I remember shan peyton talking about that that that was what the the first thing that uh

[00:44:00] That bill parcell said to him was i'd go get drew breeze if I was immediately even in the nfl Sabin is a great evaluator of talent I mean, if you look at drew breeze and and don't take cold pepper stand side by side

[00:44:13] You're gonna say don't take cold peppers the stud The reality is not because he he just didn't have it between the ears sometimes Right. Well, and he had two of the best receivers of all time

[00:44:24] And so he looked good when you got randy moss and chris carter out there Yeah, you know throw it up buddy throw it up. We'll go get it You know that's like steve curr playing with pippin and jordan. Exactly

[00:44:41] Yeah, yeah, he looked real good. You know what I mean damn right? John pexon even john pexon may look like a World beaver with that last second shot. I used to be a big bulls fan by the way

[00:44:53] I'm a bulls fan myself, man. I grew up watching those guys michael jordan was my all-time hero at the time so And uh, hey man that's I remember those any of these guys that I don't I don't do the labran versus michael jordan stuff

[00:45:07] I'm like you people are crazy if you're all they want to talk about his points that he's scoring I don't give a crap I'll give you the labran is the best athlete probably ever But aside from that. I don't want to hear he the dude

[00:45:20] michael didn't lose when it came down to the finals period A lot of great athletes out there that just don't have that That killer instinct man that it factors that just they just don't have it when it comes crunch time

[00:45:34] They make everybody shrivel up, you know when they when michael stepped on the floor everybody else puckered You know michael jordan not to get off topic here, but michael jordan they asked him one time

[00:45:45] Who is the guy that got in his head the most and talked the most trash man? And I didn't expect this answer, but he said larry bird Was the biggest trash topper about i've heard that a bunch lately that larry bird talked more shit than anybody else

[00:45:59] Larry bird and grill the hell out of him, man. Yeah, he'd tell you where he was good What he was about to do and then do it Exactly. I'm fixing to take a shot right here go down

[00:46:09] There it goes if it hadn't been for his back if it hadn't been for his back going out on and when it did Could you imagine what? The the wars that they would have went through that's the only thing that probably bird lacked him man was

[00:46:22] Was going to the gym if he went to the gym more and strengthen yourself a little bit He probably wouldn't have those back problems Yeah, I don't know exactly how I know it was bad

[00:46:31] It when you're laying down in between when they take you out and you got to lay down on the sideline You got something wrong. You know what I mean? I remember those days And I also remember the dude never missed and like he'd be in that three-point contest

[00:46:43] He'd be like, I wonder who's gonna get second A lot of golfers have problems and issues with the back just because the kind of torque That sport puts on your back when you're driving the ball

[00:47:02] Yeah, they do and in a lot of it like with what with tiger It's all in his joints because he was roiding man. I don't care what anybody says That's what was going on the dude. Let me ask you something real quick um, what do you think about

[00:47:17] Oh, linky boy keeping alex grinch. Oh stench Oh stench grinch. I think he I think he's hired him twice man I think that that was that was never gonna not happen I knew even though they were screaming and yelling after the two-lane game

[00:47:31] They should have been screaming and yelling all year I I knew it was coming. I it doesn't surprise me at all and here's why It doesn't get in the way Of doing what he wants to do. Lincoln doesn't care

[00:47:45] It's easy for him to keep a scapegoat because he doesn't give a shit about having defense He does it He could say what he wanted to say about oklahoma About not being able to recruit to norman for whatever stupid reason you want to come up with

[00:47:59] Oklahoma's a blue blood. I remember you did your your top five of all time a month or so ago, right? And you have them like number three or whatever it was I didn't really disagree with that. I and I believe that Alabama is definitely number one but

[00:48:15] An s.c. falls in there where they fall in there too I feel like no doubt about it that If you if you're in if you're in anybody's top five that knows anything about college football Don't tell me that you can't recruit at that school

[00:48:32] Don't tell me that those are blue blood programs And if you can do it at austin, why can't you do it at norman when they won more They've won one usc fan base man to me is it's so unrealistic unrealistic. They just

[00:48:47] They're so used to losing lately the taut helton years and everything that happened after p has made them so And even they draw and they talk out both sides of their mouth man They'll see they'll be acting like when we're losing they're like

[00:49:01] We're not gonna watch it because we got better things to do They still don't watch them. Well, that makes you A not a very good fan base you talk about oh, we're loyal fans, but you're not you're not there when they're losing man

[00:49:13] And they're there when they were winning man. They didn't feel that stadium once this season not one Excuse they'll use it like well, Oklahoma and Alabama there in small towns. That's all y'all got to do

[00:49:23] Y'all do realize that when people graduate from alabama and Oklahoma, they don't stay in norman and tuscalooce They moved throughout the country To seattle all way to miami to boston And they make it to games So don't give me that crap about this

[00:49:38] To watch college football games if you've been to a college football game in the last five years You paid through the nose to go even for regular season games, right? Well, i'm saying that these all these graduates and alumni live in big cities where they got other choices

[00:49:52] They got other things they can do But they come because They're a good fan base usc's not a good fan base. They're a bunch of bandwagons, man They don't care about that. They'd be ready to be out of transgender volleyball tournament or something in san barber

[00:50:07] If if usc's not in contention for national title If they lose three or four games, they disappear man Yeah, man, and i'm telling you the last home game that I saw them have I want to say it was Would have been

[00:50:24] It was a decent team. I want to say it was like Washington state maybe You do realize that usc did not beat a team this year with double digits wins, right? And they almost lost it

[00:50:36] They should have lost that game to to oregon state and they didn't have to play oregon and they didn't have to play Washington they didn't have to be the one of them have them

[00:50:45] This was it was a perfect storm of good for lincoln going into that utah game the second one Perfect storm of oh man overachieving. He was like we're ahead of schedule all this bull crap You know you were definitely ahead of they got lucky man

[00:51:01] And they had it not been for if if oregon doesn't spit the freaking bit against oregon state Which I don't know how the hell that happened. They were way ahead If they don't do that they get they still lose their ass

[00:51:15] In in that conference championship game, but I knew damn good and well when utah got in I was like They're gonna beat him again It's gonna happen because kyle wittingham we've talked about this before He's the most underrated coach in the country

[00:51:27] He is I would love for him to be the guy that's seen saving The answer because he doesn't have to recruit at number one anymore. He doesn't have to do it He the guy gets mostly three stars out of texas to go to utah

[00:51:41] And they win they just win he gets tough guys that fit his system Like camera rising that dude man. I love camera rising that guy's an alpha dog just loves it And he goes that's a name that's a name made for sports and movies Camera rising. Yeah, yeah

[00:51:58] Dang movie star like the rock or something after his playing days When he got his helmet knocked off in that damn game and popped right back up and knew to look in the camera from there And smile I was like, I love that guy

[00:52:11] I love it. He popped up like it was nothing and smiled right into the camera I was like watch they're gonna beat the shit out of usc now and they did

[00:52:19] You know and that was that was awesome. Yeah, I loved it. I loved I loved seeing every second of that man another double digit lead Yeah, well it was 17 three and it could have been 24 to 3 real easy and they they screwed up

[00:52:33] They have that interception or fumble whatever it was right then and you're like, uh-oh I said watch here it is. They're about to lose next thing, you know freaking Man, they implanted their foot right in kello Williams ass from that moment and that was the other thing

[00:52:49] Lincoln couldn't even do anything to protect his his quarterback Didn't do anything to protect you and kept trotting him out there when the dude could barely walk It was a joke. I loved it. I loved every second of it and that's the whole thing

[00:53:03] I'm gonna say this one more time about these sc fans They hate they want to hate on on me. I've gotten a ton of the hate They hate on you for saying what's true the bottom line is this we've seen this movie before

[00:53:15] We have seen this movie before as an oklahoma fan I watched him three times get to the conference championship game and I've said this a hundred times Oklahoma would not have won six conference championships in a row if texas wasn't a dumpster fire

[00:53:31] During that whole time and it was a dumpster fire That was it was a watered-down conference that perfect I mean leakey riley has Has sailed under perfect skies up until now

[00:53:45] He's been able to hide behind it because of the fact he does do great with offense. There's no arguing that But when it boils down to it when they got we watched it every time

[00:53:56] Aside from the georgia game, they got the crap kicked out of them in those freaking playoff games The crap kicked out of them It wasn't close and it was because you knew they couldn't play defense. He wasn't recruiting it well

[00:54:08] That they never were getting anywhere close to a five and they didn't get a five star close to coming This season to usc either and you're not gonna and you've got the entirety of california Is supposed to be your oyster if you're linking riley at usc

[00:54:26] And yet you can't get the you can't get a defense that can help you compete Toughness is what matters when you get to those big games. You talk about toughness

[00:54:37] You know, they may not have the same amount of talent as you but they're gonna out tough your ass One of the better defensive players linking coach perion winfrey Gives lincoln absolutely no respect that should tell you something right there. He said I went to the

[00:54:51] I guess it was a senior bowl or one of them all star games and these nfl coaches told me Why would you coach like that? Why would you coach to do those things? And he realized that

[00:55:03] Winking them almost screwed him on his nfl career. So that's why I don't know defensive players want to go out there because perion winfrey Who played under him? Israel and his ass And he's not the only one when everybody started getting on uh

[00:55:18] Venables and and his defensive staff about why don't you dumb down this defense a little bit and there There's something to be said for that. I guess but it also could something to be said for Do your job As the freaking as a player

[00:55:34] Do your job, you know that he was run it again run it again run it again until you get it right And if you've ever coached anything at all even from kids on up you can coach it right all day long sometimes They just don't do it

[00:55:48] It still becomes about the player doing their job and the the truth of the matter was none of these kids Or not none of them, but most of these kids did not have

[00:55:58] They just weren't set up for it. They and they didn't buy into it and part of that That's where I think if venables did anything wrong. He should have went out and got more of those defensive linemen guys

[00:56:12] And went ahead and pulled some of those dudes that he wasn't too sure if they were going to fit his You know culture or whatever I think you had to and I think this year he's obviously, you know, he's doing some of that But I can tell you

[00:56:27] You've never seen a defensive group Get You know as a group you've never seen this good of a defensive Recruiting class at oklahoma As sooner fans, I know that anybody who's paying any attention were way way excited about it

[00:56:43] I know that sabin was trying to get levy to come To to tuscalusa and he turned it down because of jackson arnold And I guess uh, I guess venables decided that he was going to

[00:56:54] Allow him to be a little more. Let's be more aggressive. So he let them do it My question to you is what are you hearing about garrick riley being the of the offensive coordinator in alabama next season? well, I mean

[00:57:11] One of these nfl teams is an offensive coordinator mainly new england because of the bellachek Connection between o'brien and him and whatnot And a lot of alabama fans want to see peak golden gone just as bad Um, did they not get rid of o'brien yet or?

[00:57:27] I don't know if he's left yet or not. There's been rumors that he's You know looking at maybe some nfl coordinator jobs, but I don't think it's happened just yet I think it probably will happen and one of them is going to leave. It's probably gonna be o'brien

[00:57:40] But my thing I won't tell alabama fans is you know while y'all didn't like bill o'brien. I mean We were scoring points. I mean we were scoring wasn't really about that. Yeah

[00:57:50] We were scoring 30s in the 30s and 40s our defense was what led us down this year If you're gonna dismiss somebody dismiss peak golden man, I mean he's had three or four years to prove yourself You know the offseason last year. He got caught with a dui

[00:58:05] I mean that's just irresponsible for me and his age. You got you're making that much money You can't afford a new ber to go home you know so I just think alabama fans got wrong as far as what went around o'brien

[00:58:20] They should only get rid of peak golden and they do They won't both of gone because we but right o'brien more for some reason they have a disdain for him big time It's weird to me. I mean and the thing is is like I don't know

[00:58:36] He did more with less when it seemed like when he was at penn state. He was better I think that he's a better coach than Then uh franklin is I do and then And then absolutely I think that I think that you would obviously see

[00:58:50] I think dola check could snap him right back up He'd love to have him back. You know and I don't understand it either, but I keep hearing garret reilly in connection to alabama which Kind of scary thought but

[00:59:05] It's uh, but he may come in and he may do good man. He may learn from saving that hey Big brother don't know as much as you think he does. Here's what you need to do

[00:59:15] This is what you need to do as an offensive coordinator to help not just the offense But to help your defense too because sometimes the offense needs to bleed to clock a little bit or Have a long drawn out drive that the defense has been out there

[00:59:27] Quite a few snaps. He did that with kiffin. He did that with kiffin, you know, right? He owned in kiffin for the most part but at the end, you know, there was a little skirmish there, but

[00:59:36] I love lay kiffin though. If it can hit nobody works the needle like lane Nobody if we can hone in lane kiffin and steve's or occasion then i'm sure that he can Hungarrett riley in and show him something

[00:59:50] To learn how to work as a team, you know, it's a whole it's a whole program Not just off end of service the entire program too. That's exactly you're often coordinated, but you service this entire team, man

[01:00:02] I think so too and I think that if you if you're going and trying to be you're hoping to be a head coach at some point I don't know where else you'd want to go

[01:00:11] You know and particularly if you have that because look you can't really it's hard to You know somebody I was I've been in an argument for the last two days with some jerk on freaking twitter about That kink that cliff kingsbury is better than Lincoln riley

[01:00:27] No, he's not no, he's not Okay, no, he isn't the guy couldn't win at texas teckel and the big 12 wasn't good And he had patrick mohomes and baker mayfield then Yeah, cliff couldn't cliff never made it to a major bowl either did he

[01:00:43] Never never he never won more than seven games at tex far be it for me to take up for Lincoln riley But Lincoln riley didn't make two playoffs. Hey, man. He didn't make it to the playoffs

[01:00:53] I I have no love for Lincoln and I will tell you now that cliff is I'm just saying yeah, Lincoln's a lot better than cliff

[01:01:02] I don't even understand when they made it hard and understand as a matter of fact if you go back and listen to one of my podcasts I came in which one was on I was talking about cliff was going to get fired this year

[01:01:11] He should have gotten fired before this year. They they re-upped his contract so that they had to pay him more on the way out That was dumb The the cardinals are or they've been stupid for a long time

[01:01:22] But I was and then that knife on on collard murray's back about the whole studying and all that other stuff That I bet you that has cliff kingsbury's freaking prints all over it

[01:01:33] You know, so that was a joke man all that crap. He said about colt colt running his offense better That was just trying to save his butt because again, he was the same dude He could never win. I think he won what nine games last year

[01:01:48] only two of them after freaking after Uh k1 got hurt Because they went eight and over or whatever and then so only one game. I think yeah Dude, it's a joke man. The guy never won more than seven games and he had pat my home's as a quarterback

[01:02:05] Pat my home's was pat my home's was a later picked in mitzvah Biscay because of cliff kingsbury I'm sure kansas kansas city appreciates the hell out of that, but i'm sure they do I'm sure they do and

[01:02:19] You know these teams like the cardinals man usually when they have offensive guru like that What they'll do is go direct opposite direction when they hire again So they'll probably hire a defense of mine and coax this time, but

[01:02:30] It would be pretty funny if they went out and hired lincoln riley They've been talking about it But and I think that obviously kyler would probably appreciate that and I think it'd be hilarious just because usc would lose their

[01:02:42] Shit over it would they would lose their minds. He run off after one season And you were talking about possibility of him going to Denver and i'm like, my wonder I didn't really see it, but I

[01:02:57] I wouldn't be that surprised of anything lincoln does it when you start getting exposed Yeah, I don't know though the thing is is they owe him so much money. I don't know how you really do it

[01:03:07] I don't know how you really do it and nobody's gonna pay that that buyout You know what I mean? There's no way I I think he goes at least in under a couple years And and chokes it away and when they get ready to go

[01:03:19] I mean or after maybe one year in the big 10 I can see him running and I and I still believe what you were talking about about the a and n connection I think that that's happening man

[01:03:29] I think that at some point texas a and m is going to make that that higher It's just too much money owed to jimbo right now and too much owed to usc I just that only reason that probably it didn't already happen I think that uh

[01:03:44] I just don't think jimbo is happy there. He'll tell you he's happy there But man college stations is a weird place, man. It's like a cold down there They get madder than when I call them that man

[01:03:54] But you know any place that's got all male cheerleaders man or something wrong with that man Something weird and look hey man those midnight chant things that they got going on man And now that they're starting to film that crap and let it out It's scary. It's scary

[01:04:08] It's weird I saw a video of the cadets and the stands holding their private parks hollering at the top of their lungs. I'm like what the hell is that about me? I don't know. That ain't just like some cold stuff They're weird man. They're weird.

[01:04:24] You know jimbo is from west virginia So west virginia gets rid of neil brown It wouldn't pay him as much but he'd have a lot less stress and wouldn't have as much pressure to win at west virginia And he'd be back home so

[01:04:37] Yeah, I understood that when you when you said that at first. I was like Huh I wasn't sure what to think and then the more I thought about it. I was like it makes sense It may I mean at this point they're gonna have to pay him

[01:04:49] I mean he may not get all whatever. He's old. I mean, they're not they weren't going to pay him 90 million and let him walk They weren't gonna do that But had he is said 50 Then maybe you know, I could see them doing that

[01:05:02] Um because they do have the money It's not money's not an issue at all at all down there But they're not just gonna hand in that cash and let him walk out the door

[01:05:11] Particularly when they're dumping all this money into nil funds and allowing them to recruit like that They lost all those guys that were five stars, you know this season But they replenished most of them. I mean they got david hicks coming in

[01:05:25] They dumped a bag and everybody kept saying he's oklahoma oklahoma oklahoma And then he picks a and in you know, it was clear that a and in that's how they're recruiting They're using that money as You know, they are using it as an enticement

[01:05:40] That's why I think that it's stupid to not I think the rule is dumb because they're not gonna enforce it And so you might as well just say it's make it be part of the enticements. We don't care

[01:05:51] But that way you at least know what the number is You know, well going back to usc for a second mean you talk about yourself Even their administration Is a burning dump being man. I mean they're actually worrying about some of the petty stuff man, they banned

[01:06:07] The word field being used because they said it had negative connotations to racism and and Bad the word field Yeah, the word field like football field field of dreams the movie that kind of thing

[01:06:24] And I guess they're gonna and they wanted to place it with some word called Practimists or something. I can't remember how it was said but I guess we'd call the movie practice dreams or something or

[01:06:36] You know, man, this is can't call it football field. I guess we just call it football meadow or something And then on the big screen up there you can have that that

[01:06:48] Lead up for little house in the prairie when that little girl's running down the meadow and she falls down or some shit And what are you supposed to call it man can't call the football field. I guess you got to call the football meadow or whatever

[01:06:59] I don't I don't get these people man. They They they're worried about some of the pettiest stuff man. And yeah, they don't care about him winning He doesn't matter about them winning I guess but people see it recruit see that and they're like Y'all weird, you know

[01:07:14] And you go into city la and la's not what la used to be Yeah, la was glitzy and hollywood back in the day when they had the lakers in their prime the magic johnson and all that good stuff But nowadays it's just not

[01:07:28] It's not I think most people are getting sick of movie stars even just because of all the political The way that they go so political You know, so many of these so many of these movie stars are so Out there

[01:07:42] That's gonna watch a movie. I don't care what your political views are keep it to yourself man Yeah I got a little sidetrack, but I just wanted your your thoughts on the usc skittleshitters Out there continuing to just Play a big old pile of pudding over just

[01:08:00] Silly stuff like the word field wind. That's weird to me I've got I'm gonna I guess I'm gonna have to go read about what they're talking about because that doesn't make sense to me at all

[01:08:09] Um, I'm not one of the people that thinks that we need to get rid of every little word and every little way of doing things That that have ever happened, but I don't can't I can't really make that connection feel to

[01:08:23] To racism. I don't understand it. So that's silly to me um, and as far as the rest of it goes when it comes to what they're wanting to say, you know

[01:08:34] I look man. I've said it before and I'll say it again. We've seen this movie with Lincoln Riley We've seen it we know the truth And the fact that you guys are beating us to death over over what we're saying which is nothing but true

[01:08:47] In ohio state fans said the same shit about about grinch Before he went to oklahoma or when he went to oklahoma. They were saying the same thing same thing And we didn't want to hear it either But believe me The way I feel about it is this

[01:09:03] Everything that we've said they're gonna owe us an apology We're not gonna get it, but they're gonna owe it to us outlaw But we're not gonna get it But i'm telling you we've seen the movie. We know what the truth is and we tell the truth

[01:09:16] And that's the whole thing is that they don't want to hear it It's the same thing with oki light. They hate it what I've been saying about gundi lately I don't care. I I don't have to This is my show. I'll say what I want It

[01:09:31] You know what I mean the same with you And we have audience members that are smart enough to know the truth And so yeah, I don't know man. They're definitely they should probably put more effort into winning football games and championships

[01:09:45] And less into worrying about stupid things like the word field. That's my thoughts, but yeah just with my gun You may just a big hypocrite my fraud to me, you know ever since his island 40 speech everybody thought that was cute Man, I never thought that was cute, man

[01:09:59] It was lame it was lame and you know what I loved about that one was leeches like man, I'm I'm 50 and I haven't made man yet He was like or whatever it was. I'm 47. I haven't made man yet. I don't know what you're talking about

[01:10:13] I love that answer But yeah, and here's the thing about when it comes to Mike gundi him shutting down that The guy that was asked it was a legitimate question You know they just went seven and six a year

[01:10:27] away with the same team a year from being this close to going to the playoff And so it's a it's a viable question to say are you going to be making changes to your staff?

[01:10:38] And and knowing that he's probably not going to hear from him for a month or so anyway So for him to ask that question post bowl game and then and then what does he do? He calls him and asks

[01:10:49] He threatens to take away his media credentials and stuff like that because he asked a question And that's what cody was talking about today was that God forbid you question the great mike gundi who hasn't won but one conference title and beaten oklahoma three times out of 18

[01:11:07] And is pissing away the bedlam series at that And so you're gonna sit there and act like you're all high and mighty and don't have to answer to nobody Look pal, you're not nick sabin. You haven't won shit

[01:11:19] Well, he talks about oklahoma leaving like it was shady or something But if they had had the same opportunity they would have went to sec You can't tell me that oklahoma state wouldn't jump at a chance. That's what they're pissed about not being invited

[01:11:33] That's what it amounts to and so in him being mad about all that and wanting to You know why he wants to end the bedlam game because he can't win it three and 18 three in 18 seasons

[01:11:44] He's won and and a lot of the times he should have won, you know He's he's won one conference championship and I guarantee you it's only because they didn't have a championship game that year

[01:11:55] That's the only reason I already said that if he had played football for oklahoma He'd been a head coach at oklahoma day He did say that he did and that was the week that that was bedlam week

[01:12:05] Obviously that he said that and the funny thing about that was was He was recruited to oyou didn't want to compete for the job Didn't want to compete for the job because he knew that troi eggman had just lost his job

[01:12:22] And went to ucla so he chickened out goes to okey light They never win anything even with barry sanders and thurman thomas Because What's that about, you know, but they come on man Yeah, you might have been maybe Yeah, he wouldn't my guess is this

[01:12:42] If you lose if he'd have lost to oklahoma state Twice Get out He would never made it to three and 15. No way after about three and four his ass began Just about anywhere

[01:13:00] Oh, no doubt about there's no look if you have the same kind of record against texas that he's had against oklahoma At oklahoma they defied they defied his ass inside of three years. There's no way he makes it that long No way

[01:13:15] If he's here at alabama and he loses the often 34 times he's gone Exactly, it's just like that everywhere Look at they were they were getting ready to fire harbaugh if he didn't hurry up and beat ohio state He's right where he needs to be man oklahoma state

[01:13:29] And they don't they don't really strive to win football championships. They never had Yeah, except that they pay him eight million How in the world can you tell me and so many of those fans when they come on the attack for us saying something about them

[01:13:43] Those they're talking about that oklahoma state will never get a better coach than him At eight million dollars you can't do better I think a lot better I could think of freaking five or six coaches that would do it for less

[01:13:58] Than eight million and come in there and out recruit this guy He's his recruiting class for all these dudes that they've lost number 67 in the country I I can tell you guys within your conference chris climbing At kansas state So could uh

[01:14:18] So could land slide pulled from kansas exactly easily Dave a randa i'm not too I'm a little concerned with david randa. He's a little odd. There's something weird about them going We need what they did and then blowing it this year

[01:14:34] But I think a randa is a way better coach. I think that I know that joey maguire is a better coach And this is a high school coach, you know, he was a high school coach He's better. I could think of a hell the dude at utsa

[01:14:47] Oh, yeah, jeff trailer jeff trailer I would I would hire him in a heartbeat if i'm oklahoma state and he'd do it for half of what they made gundy

[01:14:56] The santa antonio is a pretty big city and it's growing and I've been to santa antonio almost moved down there this past year but I didn't and um They put a lot of money in that program. I think the big 12 maybe shouldn't buy them

[01:15:11] To be in the country long it won't be a lot longer. They could replace the austin market with the santa antonio market Yeah, listen and still keep some of that austin. Yeah, exactly. And so you're looking at trailers one the last what two? uh

[01:15:26] The last two american conference championships or whatever or is it the uh Yeah, yeah one of those conference. I think it was the american. They give tech It's a pretty hard time up until the early part of the fourth

[01:15:38] Yeah, they kind of choked it away at the end But it and then they should have beaten houston too Like houston they that was the one game that they didn't choke That they should have you know that I mean they gave houston all they could handle game one

[01:15:52] That's the other team out of the big 12 right now that I think I think that daniel holgerson is a joke too. I think that I think that it's kind of the same deal as uh as as It to me, it's the same as gunty. They're both very unlikable

[01:16:08] And like he didn't want to take any kind of he didn't want to take any responsibility for them fighting on the sidelines and getting kicked out of games and all that it's not about me Uh, who's the head coach brah?

[01:16:20] daniel holgerson's just like a worse version of lincoln rally to me I agree. He's just like a A beetle juice dollar general version man He looks just like beetle juice don't he he does man. He's a weird cat He's a weird cat man and he

[01:16:39] I don't know what the deal is though But I think that he's not they're not gonna give him a lot of time the fratitas don't play And they're running they're running what's going on at houston if he doesn't if he doesn't look the part year one

[01:16:52] In the big 12, they'll they'll boot him and they probably should have coming in But I don't know how you didn't fire how you don't fire gunty when you lost all those players to the country what

[01:17:05] You got a sleeping giant team in central florida. They got one of the biggest alumni and student enrollment In america they have the biggest alumni base in the country and they have You know most people when they win the national championship, they go to work disney world

[01:17:21] They're already there get to go disney world anytime you want Hey, I think that them and byu are already One and two in the conference as soon as oklahoma and texas leave Yeah, I don't know something between texas and houston more texas uh

[01:17:39] They stopped playing houston in houston because of they kept them from coming to the big 12 They were always a part of the big eight texas played houston in houston or something and some of the stands were

[01:17:50] unsafe for their fans or something happened to their fans while they were down there So they refused to play them anymore Because of the safe safety concerns or something They refused to ever play them again, but now they're gonna have to play them

[01:18:03] This year they will this year they will but and the only reason that houston got into the big 12 Was because texas is leaving though. They kept them out. It was definitely ut that kept them out of the big 12 from a while back

[01:18:14] They didn't want anything to do with them. There was some underhandiness in the whole texas oklahoma thing probably but And they wouldn't had to been like that if the rest of the big 12 hadn't been such, you know cry babies about to hold down Right

[01:18:26] But you know texas probably could have been a little more open minded and letting byu and them earlier and might have saved the conference I don't know The other thing that texas did was the whole longhorn network is what kind of sent the entire conference away

[01:18:42] Yeah, they could have they could have said turn this into the big 12 network just like the sec network acc all that right and they When espion offered up the longhorn network, they took the money

[01:18:54] They got richer than everybody else and that in turn sent away nebraska, colorado anem Missouri When you're in a conference, you're supposed to share revenue. That's right And they didn't they didn't care anything about it. They got richer and still didn't win anything

[01:19:11] But they they got richer and the rest of the conference was getting poor and There was rumors There was rumors that texas might go independent You know just being independent like no today

[01:19:25] And it's might be the best thing for them because if they come over to sec and start nobody cares about what they think of the sec That's I know that I can't wait for them

[01:19:32] They might be a bully. They might be able to bully tcu and baler and texas tech But they're not going to be able to bully anybody. Yes, he said And I don't think they could stand up to him was your team oklahoma

[01:19:44] That was the only team within the big 12 that could stand up to texas Yeah, because even as much as they hate each other and I mean we all I mean Horns down let me go ahead and just say that real quick

[01:19:55] Uh as much as we hate the horns They're the closest thing to a like So, you know they and because of the fact that they make up half of the revenue for the conference

[01:20:07] They're kind of still got to be allies too. So that was the whole once once the Once the the invitation was there And for texas and then you know when texas was trying to get out

[01:20:17] I don't know that they immediately called o you but i'm pretty sure the sec was like hey if you bring o you come on You know and so but o you was going to do it and so Because of the whole

[01:20:30] I mean you can't get rid of the of the red river game. You can't and so What a what a I'll tell you a border rivalry that's never really been a rivalry that might be a nice little rivalry when oklahoma comes over And that's oklahoma in arkansas

[01:20:44] It will be It will they don't really play they didn't really played that much because you know oklahoma is always in the big Not since not since they moved. I mean obviously they haven't played hardly at all since they moved when arkansas went to the sec That's right

[01:20:56] There was a good rivalry before that though and then same with you know same with Nebraska You know, but Nebraska shouldn't have moved. That was a bad move on their part Yeah, Nebraska should never went to big team

[01:21:08] No, and they're not they're not built for it. I don't know. I like that rule. I just don't know that that's It's Their geographical location doesn't no favors either No, man out in the middle of nowhere in the middle of them freaking cornfields. I mean

[01:21:26] I don't know man. It seems like and they've got great facilities I mean, I guess they could I mean they had what 95 was their last champ last championship or whatever and they went back to back But they have they've done anything since I mean nothing

[01:21:39] It doesn't seem like and that for sure they were still fairly competitive until they went to the big 10, but Speaking of recruiting to hard places, you know, a west virginia fan brought up something at the other day he said that um

[01:21:56] Since these players are getting paid now that maybe Instead of players being able to choose where they go. Maybe they should start having a college draft for high school

[01:22:05] Hmm. I told him I don't think you can do that because you can't force a kid to go to school somewhere Right, you know just because you can't get the five star athlete. That's not alabama and georgian

[01:22:16] Oklahoma and texas as well again, they're not gonna allow it to get to that point. That's I mean this everybody they Of course, this is gonna come from somebody from west virginia, you know, they're They're not winning anything since rich rod left and You know

[01:22:32] They talked bad about rich rod, but he had him on the cusp of national championship game They played for the national championship didn't they that year? They shipped the bed against pittsburgh. That's right. That's and uh, it cost him a shot to national tyler right

[01:22:46] But and that's a rivalry game you can see that happening or whatever But like the thing of it was bottom line is that yeah, that was the best they've been Was they beat the crap out of oklahoma that you're in the fiesta ball

[01:22:58] I think that very year they beat the crap out all you in the fiesta ball So and so I mean, I remember that I remember those teams and west virginia was pretty good The one thing I would say about it. Look

[01:23:11] You don't want this to be the nfl number one. We don't want it and the nfl Their model is if what you're trying to get of course A west virginia fan would say that because you want parody

[01:23:24] Whereas the rest of the the rest of the country really doesn't But is parody really gonna get you there? I don't know Yeah, you still gotta coach them up That's right, and I just don't we're gonna start You know, it's like I told him I'm like you don't

[01:23:40] You don't see regulations put on harvard about getting the best law students You don't see them tell on harvard. Hey, you got too many good law students. You gotta let cornell have something

[01:23:50] That's the same thing when you're attending school you pick the school you want to go to You know, I don't get it either and in the end It would get rigged and everything else man All the more the more you got some rigging going on already

[01:24:05] There's rigging going on anyway, and there always has been it's like this this whole feeling that somebody asked me the other day about A level playing field. I said shit. There ain't never been a level playing field never Stop expecting that that's not what you're gonna get

[01:24:20] But you're also not gonna get a lot of these schools that if you really wanted to be that like Don't tell me that you can't you know, don't tell me that you can't find a way to go out there and get the guy to coach them

[01:24:32] Up and pay the money because there's a lot of places that have money Watch the one thing I'll say about colorado is it's been a sleeping giant There's a lot of money in colorado a lot of people that went to colorado that have money

[01:24:45] And they're gonna find a way to pay and if they can recruit well And the one thing that prime has done well is recruit and he's put decent coaches around him He doesn't have to be in charge of coaching them up

[01:24:57] The guys that he's got around him are decent So we'll see what I think that in the pack 12 they can win right away because it's just not that good Well, yeah, the pack 12 may help him But the advantage he had at Jackson state was he was actually

[01:25:12] Luring in four and five star athletes with some of his false Narratives they were out there speaking on them didn't win that championship again was weird to me I'm not gonna get into all that but um

[01:25:26] He was playing against other hbcu schools who had no four or five stars. Correct. So he had a distinctive advantage on Correct, it'd be like, you know They let the to me the hbcu's like the black ivy league

[01:25:37] You know, they don't play in the playoffs and the division one double a or fcs playoffs They just play against each other mostly and then occasionally they'll schedule outside that but He had a distinctive advantage on everybody else in the hbcu

[01:25:49] And it'd be like I put in a 7a high school in a 2a district And now when he goes to colorado, he's not gonna have that advantage because everybody else has got four and five star athletes So correct. We're gonna see real quickly

[01:26:01] There was a reason why he hired those guys though that were already good coaches is what I feel like You know, we're gonna see real quickly if if if he's if he's coach prime or if he's con time

[01:26:12] Yeah, I think so too and I think that you know The facility wise there's no reason why he shouldn't be able to recruit Well because they have as good of facilities as you'll find in the country

[01:26:22] And as far as you know and and the alumni to back up everything like that and and they have some history You know, I remember championship back in the 90s, even though he got a fifth down in that season I remember that game too. That was crazy

[01:26:36] That was crazy. Wasn't that against Nebraska? Thing is is Missouri Missouri. Yeah, yeah, yeah Not sure I would see and those were the glory days of the big 12 man when When you had colorado and Nebraska doing their thing

[01:26:52] And then, you know, Oklahoma and them they weren't they weren't the Guaranteed at the top every year then they were I sort of take what I back what I said about Nebraska being

[01:27:01] It'll be relevant because you know, they should have beat Texas that year when Texas played national championship They give him another second put on the clock which was bogus and the Dominicans soon

[01:27:12] If a defensive player was ever going to the Heisman trophy, it should have been the dominican suit. That guy was unbelievable, wasn't he? He roughed out Colt McCoy, huh? Yes, he did. Yes, he did That was funny, man. Yeah, listen anytime anytime you beat up on uh on

[01:27:30] On ut it makes me happy, but You know, it's uh, it's one of them deals Yeah, just it's like you with Auburn. Like you said, you know that same same with okey light I don't care anything about them winning the game again

[01:27:42] I hope that they keep gun to your round forever as far as i'm concerned It just makes me laugh that he's got everybody snowed into thinking that you can't recruit there

[01:27:52] When they've had they've had guys like Barry Sanders. They've had guys like thurman thomas. They've had I mean, they've had They've had receivers that have been all pros for the last 15 20 years if you can recruit those guys you can recruit anybody and Cal Gundy

[01:28:09] His brother if he is bringing him in which I don't know why they hadn't already They kept telling me that that's already a done deal I don't think it is because if that's the case this dude recruited Joe mixing and adrian peterson and freaking all the great players

[01:28:26] That oklahoma has had offensively have been cal gundy guys up until the last couple years Mike gundy acts like nobody else can make oklahoma state Relevant or a decent program that wins at least eight or nine games a year

[01:28:41] Before him less miles was winning there. Why do you think lsu hired less miles because he was winning the alcohol in the state Oh, yeah, I don't understand what those folks in still water doing. I just don't get it

[01:28:52] How they how he's able to make them believe what he's saying is beyond me I mean it was it was a pat con man. You want to talk about con man that dude is a con man He's a Gundy

[01:29:06] He's got a five-year revolving contract that renews every year and he's making eight million They owe him 40 right now Jesus they'll owe him another 40 at the end of this year if they fire him and they're talking about apparently

[01:29:19] He's got this year to figure it out. That's what kody just told me Well, even before I doubted pat pat johns was a decent coach It was pat johns that coach Barry sanders and whatnot Yeah Hey, that was his coach. Yeah, that was his

[01:29:35] Jimmy johnson coached there too Before he went to the u You know jimmy johnson was a coach there too Oklahoma fans are probably real happy that he left Believe that you can win there I mean he just he's just real narcissistic to me man. He just

[01:29:54] Very fake, you know, he tries to act like he stands up for all this all that's right I mean And he does well with three star guys of you know, but here's the thing is doing all that The game does pass you by at some point

[01:30:08] And it was it was threatening to pass up Sabin for a while until he changed his offense and did some of that other Kind of stuff and got up with the times, but he was able to do it

[01:30:18] Guys like gundy do not he hates the portal. He doesn't want to mess with it. Guess what it ain't going nowhere He doesn't like nil because apparently they don't have the money bs t-boom pickings lets you plenty bud Don't give me that crap

[01:30:33] But he doesn't want to do it and so that's why to me I think if kale was gonna go he'd already be there But it messes with the narrative because kales are always been able to recruit. He'll recruit those guys

[01:30:46] For them to get and then then what excuses does big brother have? He doesn't have any Great coaches adapt And they they're like millions. They know when to change colors and Sabin done that like he said he brought in lane kiffin brought in

[01:31:04] Even before that jim mack Wayne. Yeah, and he hated it. He you could tell he didn't like it He wanted to play smash mouth But he also hated losing worse exactly

[01:31:16] I don't think it's safe for players to have to play as many snaps and everybody thought he was just making excuses He said but if y'all want to play like that, that's okay. That's what we'll play and I'll go get somebody that can play like it

[01:31:28] And just like with bear brine even back in the day, you know, he was a Knife formation guy when he first come to alabama then he changed to wishbone Because that was the in bow offense time. He was able to listen to other coaches

[01:31:41] He wasn't too narcissistic about himself to take pointers from dare royal at texas The more I've heard about bear You know throughout the years, you know and we're nowadays you get to you get to hear a lot more of that

[01:31:55] You know with all the different networks out there that tell the stories and like saturdays down south I really like that that channel um I mean Who was it? Conrad the con dredge? Uh He was the alabama kid that went to tennessee quarterback black quarterback

[01:32:15] Con dredge was a Yeah, which is tennessee. Yeah, and I mean And like bear brine telling him hey man, I'd love to but they can't they are not gonna let me have a black quarterback Man go to tennessee because you'll get to you'll get to do it

[01:32:33] Tennessee's one of their biggest rivals and he sends this kid off of there that tells you he's a good man You know after that god done what he did And all the alumni saying that bear was right and trying to give the god chance to be a quarterback

[01:32:46] Right after that we had walter lewis. Who's our first black quarterback? You know, right? Russ and tennessee were ahead of most northern teams now all these northern teams try to Lay blesses the racist region of the united states when reality

[01:33:00] We had a black quarterback before a lot of teams Not just the south but in the north west and everywhere right right It's a crazy deal man

[01:33:11] But and I love that's what I love about it is that now we're starting to that history that the history books that they want you to Hit the want you to read You know that fits their narrative or whatever

[01:33:22] A lot of the stories are getting out now and you start understanding the real story And what really happened and like I don't think that bear brine had a braces bone in his body I think that that's clear

[01:33:31] You know what I mean? He was that he was one of the first Wasn't alabama one of the first sec teams To allow any black players. I mean As well, so that's

[01:33:43] I mean to me I just feel like and a lot of people like to say a lot of things about bear brine, but He was great. He was great racist city in america to me And I've heard Is boston and it's way up north man So

[01:33:59] It's not any of those guys in favor of the Celtics. They'll tell you that it might have been about geography back in the hundreds and over 1900s, but sure the racism has been everywhere. It's just

[01:34:10] They used it against the south to push their version of the history books like you said Well, yeah, the civil war was north versus south. So it's easy to push that You know, I believe in people some quality content today some history and some comedy and some Definitely

[01:34:28] Yeah, we've kind of been all over the map. Haven't we today? We're just shooting the shit man. Just sitting down having a beer tomorrow I love it man. Soon. I've had a lot of fun with it too, man

[01:34:36] I just I'm glad I think we ought to do this often anytime you want me to come by. I'll hang out with you too And I appreciate uh, I appreciate you The fact that you've kind of promoted me

[01:34:50] As as a channel, I've tried to do the same for you man. I enjoy watching your show And I'm so glad that you came on mine too. I'm gonna pop this out

[01:34:58] I'll probably just leave it alone let it go and we'll see how everybody how everybody likes it and But definitely uh anytime. Let me know and we'll do this again for sure. Let me know what you find out about

[01:35:12] About the offensive coordinator position. Maybe we'll have to do another one of the yeah Dan molligan was another name that's popped up, but I hope that's not true either because he's weird He's a weird cat man. Women is wise going around kissing Florida players in the mouth

[01:35:26] Worthy see I didn't know what all was going on over there But Dan's a weird dude, man. Yeah, and he was making all kinds of excuses about getting their asses kicked by They had pictures of his wife kissing the players in the mouth. I'm like

[01:35:39] I can understand kissing on cheek or something even that's a little too much touchy-feely for me, but She's kissing directly on the mouth Like golly man, what's going on there? It's awfully lovable

[01:35:53] Yeah, I don't know man. I don't know I've heard some weird stuff about that dude still I still don't think I think he's kind of a weird cat anyways, but he just won that great a coach either No, no outlaw of college football on youtube

[01:36:09] At ocf productions as well Make sure to tweet him. Hey, if you're not already subscribed to his channel I'm gonna say what I said on twitter yesterday. What the hell are you waiting on? Um, he has no love for the skittles shiters out there at usc

[01:36:23] So he's definitely one of those guys that an oklahoma fan is going to enjoy all the time Definitely one of my friends. I enjoy every second of it And uh, we'll uh, we'll definitely have you on again and anytime you'd like for me to jump on I'll

[01:36:39] Be honored to do so. Thanks a lot for coming on my show, man All right, brother crimson nation's room That's right. Warren's down And uh, Lincoln down too